Australia is not the only continent in drought - it has been a hot, dry European summer.
A low rainfall zone winter wheat sounds like a contradiction in terms, but a researcher says the concept could have merit.
In spite of the big dry, several crop diseases have been noted in barley and oat crops this season, with loose smut a problem in barley.
It has never quite shaken off the 'bundle of sticks' label, but experts say well made canola hay is an excellent source of feed.
It was a 50-50 proposition earlier but farmers say the pendulum now is firmly in favour of cutting crops for hay rather than grain.
The price signals are clear, with near record values for east coast wheat, grain sellers will look to get grain into the domestic market.
With wheat markets already over $450/t for wheat some felt there was no room for more upside - but weekend frost proved that theory wrong.
Frost and an increasingly dry September are cutting grain production forecasts out of Western Australia.